Technically she is vegetarian as vegetarians do eat milk and eggs and honey. However there are ones that avoid some or most of those products. Vegan is the one that avoids all.

Everything helps, no matter how small. Though the vegan life may be better, that doesn’t make the vegetarian life bad

its better (Im vegetarian) But like chenlI said, youre not really vegetarian as you are still supporting veal and killing baby chicks (Along with what chenlI said, they more often get thrown like into giant “Meat grinder” like things.) maybe if you watch a video on the dairy industry, you can give up milk and cheese

Well, I’ll say being vegetarian is a lot better but it would still be better to be vegan.
I think you’d find you could be vegan if you tried, I thought I couldn’t be vegan when I first became vegetarian ( mainly because I liked meat too much and the only substitute I knew of was quorn ), but I found out about alternatives and later became vegan.

Indeed. I used to be vegetarian too and was naive thinking I was doing no harm. It’s PETA videos that made me see what really happens and I turned vegan straight away.

@chenli no, don’t be sorry. I understand that you’re just saying what really happens.

Sorry, only giving you the reality of what happens. If you click the link, it’s a guide I made to help new vegans.

@chenli great.. now I feel like fucking shit for not being vegan.

Yes it is still bad unless you get eggs from pet hens whom you will not kill. There are plenty of milk alternatives too, with a variety of flavours.

Info on hens:

Hens + Eggs

The majority of the eggs you see on shop shelves will come from battery farmed hens. Battery farming is a form of intensive factory farming where hens are crammed into a cage so small that they cannot stretch their wings, let alone walk or peck and scratch at the ground. Under these conditions hens are prevented from performing most of their natural behaviours, such as dust bathing, perching and laying their eggs in a nest. Up to 90,000 caged hens can be crammed into one windowless shed. The cages in Europe are stacked between 4 and 9 cages high. Japan is said to have the world’s highest battery cage unit, with cages stacked 18 tiers high.

Battery hens suffer Caged Layer Osteoporosis (CLO), or brittle bones. Research has shown that 35% of premature deaths in cages are due to CLO, a slow death from paralysis and starvation at the back of the cage.

Confined to the cage, the hen is unable to forage by scratching and pecking at the ground. Under natural conditions a large proportion of a hen’s day would be spent looking for food. Denied this simple activity, the hen’s claws can grow long or twisted and be torn off. They can even grow around the wire mesh of the sloping cage floor. The slope itself puts painful pressure on the hen’s toes, causing damage to the bird’s feet.

Many hens are debeaked. A red-hot blade sears off a chunk of the birds’ sensitive beak. This suffering is caused in order to stop birds pecking at each other or cannibalising, common problems on commercial egg farms – whether caged or free range.
Spent hens – hens that are not commercially viable as they are not producing enough eggs, are sent for a slaughter after a year of egg production. This is done by catching them and then bundling them into crates before being transported by lorry to the slaughterhouse. On average 29% of the battery hens arriving at the slaughterhouse are reported to have at least one freshly broken bone.
“Spent” hens can be worth as little as two pence per bird. After slaughter their carcasses will be used in chicken soups, pastes, pies, pet food, etc.

For every hen hatched for egg laying there is a cock chick that is killed almost immediately after struggling from the egg. Modern selective breeding techniques have resulted in distinct strains of chicken for egg laying and meat production. This breed specialisation has gone so far that birds of the laying strain do not make good meat birds. As male birds of the laying strain do not lay eggs and will not produce meat efficiently, they are killed when a day old. Their carcasses will often be dumped into a dumpster out back.

It also takes 3 kilos of grain as chicken feed to produce one kilo of eggs. This is because the conversion of crops by farm animals into food for humans is grossly inefficient. And it is not only food, such as grain, which could be fed directly to humans, that is wasted. Each battery egg takes about 180 litres of water to produce.
The wild counterpart of the hen will only lay 5-6 eggs a year. Eggs also provide sufficient nutrients for under-nourished hens.

Cows:

Dairy + Veal

Milk is a substance created by the mammary glands of the cow for her calf to nourish itself on until it has been fully weaned. However, to gain milk for human consumption, the calf has to be disallowed this vital nutrition. This is done by taking away the calf 24-48 hours after birth. The cow also has to be continuously impregnated in order to keep up with the demand for cow’s milk.

If the calve is female she will most likely be selected as “herd replacements” for when the original cows have stopped producing the wanted amount of milk that the humans take. If the female calf has more than four teets the extra teets are sliced off. When a cow has reached the point where she is considered “commercially unviable” she will be sent off for slaughter. Calves that are reared for the cowshed usually spend their first 6-8 weeks of life confined individually in narrow pens. Taken from their mother, and unable to interact meaningfully with their fellows, these calves suffer behavioural deprivation, which can affect them for life. Alternatively, calves may be reared in groups. With either method, calves are usually fed by artificial teat or bucket.

If the calve is male he will either be exported to other countries for veal production or killed on site when he is a couple of days old. Veal production involves placing the calves individually into tiny narrow crates with ropes tied around their neck, and fed food that is deficient in specific nutrients such as iron. The whole aim of this is to make the calf anaemic and thus make their flesh “white and tender”. After 6-8 months of this intensive farming, the calves are sent off to slaughter.

The young calf is particularly vulnerable to disease. To help boost the calve’s immunity, it is essential that they receive colostrum, the mother’s first milk, which contains extra nutrients and antibodies against disease. However, calves born to mothers with long, pendulous udders can have difficulty locating the udder. Each year, about 170,000 calves die within their first month of life. Scouring (diarrhoea) and respiratory infections are common killers.
Also, due to the immense strain put on the cow being milked whilst pregnant, she is likely to do what is known as “the splits”. This is where the pressure from both being milked and carrying her unborn calf causes her back legs to give way. To stop the cow’s legs from doing “the splits”, farmers often shackle the back legs together.
Rennet: Cheese is made by coagulating milk to give curds which are then separated from the liquid, whey, after which they can be processed and matured to produce a wide variety of cheeses. Milk is coagulated by the addition of rennet. Rennet is a substance obtained from the stomach of a slaughtered newly born calf. Rennet is a by-product of the veal industry.

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Hey @meowmusic! It’s great that you’re vegetarian, but going vegan will greatly reduce the suffering of animals used for food. Check out http://www.peta2.com/lifestyle/ for all kinds of useful information & tips!

Being vegetarian isn’t bad. You are still saving lives. Vegan just takes it a few steps further. Veganism is the best choice, but sometimes circumstances can keep some people from reaching that standard. Either way, you are supporting a worthy cause.

I think the fact that you are trying to help animals is the best! If you can’t be vegan just at least try to eat less of animal products such as eggs and milk. Any little bit helps

The important part is that you’re help to save animals ! Every bit counts

you’re still making a difference by just being vegetarian. (: dont feel bad

I see that a lot of people on here are vegans and not vegetarians.. I feel guilty now for just being a vegetarian and not a vegan. Honestly, is it bad if I still eat animal products like cheese and milk? Please help! I just don’t think I could be vegan..