• Not enough water for meat??

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    Over a year ago

    this is a quote from The Veggie People

    “A report entitled FEEDING A THIRSTY WORLD was released by some of the world’s leading water scientists at the Stockholm International Water Institute (SIWI), as part of the WORLD WATER WEEK Conference which convened in Stockholm yesterday (August 26 to 31, 2012). Although I have not read the entire report, I have read enough to know that the contents of the report are alarming. In accordance with a series of model-based studies carried out at Stockholm University, the scientists concluded that the earth will not have enough water to produce the food required to meet the world’s needs by 2050:

    “The analysis showed that there will not be enough water available on current croplands to produce food for the expected population in 2050 if we follow current trends and changes towards diets common in Western nations… There will, however, be just enough water, if the proportion of animal based foods is limited to 5 per cent of total calories and considerable regional water deficits can be met by a well organised and reliable system of food trade.”

    In other words, if the world’s population adopts a mostly vegetarian diet by 2050, we MAY have enough water left on the planet to grow enough food to feed ourselves – and ONLY IF “considerable regional water deficits can be met…”

    I know that many people cannot accept the legitimacy of the “compassion” argument, i.e. that many vegans adopt a plant-based diet out of compassion for the animals who are brutally tortured and slaughtered everyday in laboratories and on factory farms around the world. I also know that many people cannot accept the legitimacy of the “health” argument, i.e. that many vegans adopt a plant-based diet out of a desire to improve their physical, emotional, and mental health.

    However, in my experience, very few people will dispute the fact that an animal-based diet, by conservative measures, consumes 5 to 10 times more water than a vegetarian diet. As such, I am hoping that the results of SIWI’s research will appeal to those who refuse to be swayed by other arguments, and that, in light of SIWI’s findings, these people will consider reducing their intake of animal protein.

    There is constant talk about the world’s present and future energy requirements, but most people fail to see that future wars will be fought over our most basic of human requirements: fresh air, clean water, and FOOD. According to SIWI’s report, a world food crisis can be expected within the next 38 years if we do not CHANGE the way we eat, and if we do not find a way to alleviate the stress that we are currently putting on the earth’s water resources. According to THE GUARDIAN, in 2008 alone, food shortages led to civil unrest in 28 countries.

    If that’s not a convincing argument to GO VEG, then I don’t know what is…

    (I have attached the link to SIWI’s report and to THE GUARDIAN in the comments thread below.)

    Title: Veggie by 2050 Please
    Category: News
    Tags: Vegan, Vegetarian, Water, Stockholm, Conference, Food Shortage, 2050″

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    Over a year ago

    Hey @foxiefox,

    The invention of the automobile, the abolition of slavery, and the end of World War II also necessitated job retraining and restructuring. This is simple an ingredient in all social progress–not a reason to deter progress. There’s simply no excuse to support cruelty.

    E-mail us at peta2@peta2.com if you have any questions.

    ~Annie from peta2.

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    Over a year ago

    @foxiefox, you seem to completely be missing the point that gradual change is different from changing in one day. The initial costs could be subsidized with the money that would otherwise be going to the large costs of trying to balance animal agriculture. The only difference is that they would get that money back, because sustainable agriculture is not an economic detriment, but a benefit.

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    Over a year ago

    Vegancaramel I Know the US is not the only county suffering or haveing suffered a Economic problems.. And yes I know farmers and ranchers are smart About there buisness grew up on a ranch myself Raised my own food from Veggies to animals. But you and other need to realize it takes money and ALOT to stop growing one thing and turn around and grow another. Lets say a cattle rancher decides to stop Raising beef and wants to get into Crop farming. Well he sells off all his cattle At the moment as of today are going between 75.00 and 125.00 Thats whole animal not per pound. So there loosing money there. then they have to Sell off all The equipment they have Then they have to let the land rest for at least a year before they can plow it to Start growing corn then you have to figure there going to need all the tractors and harvestors it takes to Grow and harvest corn
    A tractor Will set you back around 40,000,a seeder another 20,000, Irrigation which can run up into the 100,000s, A corn harvestor which are very expensive they can go up to the 100,000 range. So its not that easy for a Farmer to Just switch from Livestock to crops. It takes money and with the drought we are facing here in the USA bad prices for everything from Meat to crops its Not just a easy thing to say oh they can switch.

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    Over a year ago

    “*either be retired or dead.* I thought yesterday you said you cared about all humans yet here you are saying they can die? thats not very humanitarian of you…”

    I’m not saying you kill them, my God. If they’re 60 and in 50 years everyone went vegan, they would be 110, which means they would be dead.

    Unless you forgot, all humans die. Yeah, humans CAN physically die, wow! No brainer.

    Also, that’s way too much blind American patriotism to assume that the US is the only country that has suffered any economic downturn in the last decade or so. I’m not saying “who gives a hoot”, I’m saying stop assuming farmers are idiots and give them some credit that they could switch to a more profitable and less unethical business.

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    Over a year ago

    Vegancaramel
    The farmers are a legit concern i know you Kids are young and do not understand the way the world works But YOU have to realize your Taking away someones livelyhood also if i rember right you do not live in the USA? so you probly do not realize what or economy is like at the moment. We have a HIGH unemployment rate, People loosing there homes and Familys Living on the streets. So just saying who gives a hoot about someone loosing there income they can retire or die
    *either be retired or dead.* I thought yesterday you said you cared about all humans yet here you are saying they can die? thats not very humanitarian of you…

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