@foxiefox: If you aren’t trolling, then why won’t you accept that fewer meat animals will be born, and that without that extra grain requirement, more land could return to nature? Even if it takes that much water to produce a pound of meat, you have to multiply that by about 15x to produce a pound of beef.

Im not trolling Im just saying If the world goes Vegan there will be no use for all those animals and Since now the farmers out of Buissness he cant afford to feed them, there not enough sanctuarys to take millions of animals so whats the solution There going to have to be all killed.. So What legitimently do you as a vegan purpose we do with all there bodies Since Now no one eats meat? thats all im asking.

@foxiefox
You need to stop trolling because I constantly read the boards and you’ve been starting fights with everybody. Also, we will stop breeding so many animals because we won’t need them so the population will start to go down. It already has started dropping. With the increasing prices of meat and the news about vegetarian/vegan diets being healthy people are starting to cut back on the meat consumption. Less demand means less supply.

Furthermore, animal waste has been a huge problem. I read an article in the latest issue of “All Animals” magazine and they showed one plant that wasn’t keeping up with their shit. There was a giant zestpool filled with liquified cow feces and it was building up methane. In turn giant bubbles were starting to form. If they were to burst the gases emitted were so deadly then can kill someone on the spot. The problem is there is too much waste. Waste that ends up in local water supplies. Waste that spreads disease and hurt impoverished communities. It’s not good for anyone. Animals, people, the environment.

skivegchick.
your right there would be less, Infact there would be None Along with Pigs and sheep and chickens and any other raised meat. Wonder whats going to happen to all there dead bodies when all of a sudden were all vegan and the Farmer has to go out and shoot every cow,pig,sheep,chicken,turkey he has? well since we can no longer eat it.. Were are all those dead animals going to go…..

people you say this is bull and that plants use up more water then animals, but think of it this way:the cow has to eat plants and then the human also has to eat plants, or the human just eats plants. and dont bother saying cows will still be eating plants if no one where to eat meat, becuase there would be less cows on the earth.

hakred im well aware of what farm animals eat growing up on a farm I fed Chickens,sheep,horses,rabbits

By purchasing and consuming meat products, you’re actually using more plants than if you’d just bought and eaten the plant to begin with. If farmed animals weren’t fed they wouldn’t have any “meat” to be cut off of their bones. What do you think farm animals eat?

And i have to say your infograph is a little wrong.. this is from the School of water sciance.. your info graph says it takes 25 gallons of water to produce 1 lb of when No it takes almost 250 gallons

110-250 gallons
Wheat consumes about 790 billion cubic meters of water annually, which constitutes 12 % of the global water use for crop production.
One cotton shirt:
700 gallons
Of this total water volume, 45% is irrigation water consumed (evaporated) by the cotton plant; 41% is rainwater evaporated from the cotton field during the growing period; and 14% is water required to dilute the wastewater flows that result from the use of fertilisers in the field and the use of chemicals in the textile industry.
Potato:
100 gallons thats 1 Potato
Orange:
13 gallons
One glass of orange juice (200 ml) takes about 45 gallons litres of water, which includes growing the orange, of course.
Corn, 1 pound:
110 gallons
Maize (corn) consumes about 550 billion cubic meters of water annually, which is 8 % of the global water use for crop production.
Bread, 1 slice, about 1 ounce:
10 gallons
10 gallons is a good global average. Producing wheat takes about 150 gallons per pound.

What makes me wonder is Again do you Not realize Plants and trees need water to? The demand for water is going to Be the same or increse Becuse MORE plants and trees are going to need to be planted and Watered to feed the world. Do you know how large Acres of Veggies are watered? someone doesnt go out there with a hose and water them No there irrigated which Infact does waste lots of water. Do you know how rice is grown? there flood watered which again wastes Lots of water. Its just not going to solve our water problem for the whole world to go vegan sorry its just a fantasy.

@foxiefox Here’s a picture of just one dairy farm and the runoff waste they produce
http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/images/dairyrunoff.jpg
That’s not being used for fertilizer. That is filtering into larger bodies of water and causing contamination. That is threatening our potable water source.

Please check out this infographic – it covers greenhouse gas emissions, water usage, land usage, and the inefficiency of resource conversion in the animal industry.
http://planetsave.com/2012/07/13/veganism-the-environment-infographic/

I think we can all tone the “I think that’s complete bullshit” comments down for one moment to honestly and critically examine the evidence at hand for a more sustainable plant-based movement.

yeah right . . .

I saw this! I hope more people go vegan, like for reals!!

I find it believable that if the whole world went vegan or even vegetarian we would save on many resources. The population is getting too high, it’s a fact. I wouldn’t be surprised if a limit on how many children someone can have is placed in my lifetime.

@NicoleLynne At the rate of population growth and the speed at which a more capitalist society is spreading through the world there will not be enough *fresh* water to sustain all of life at the rate we are going.
@foxiefox: First of all, compost does not have to come from manure. Good soil is produced by decomposing vegetables and other organic material. Yes, fossil fuels are used to power machinery to harvest plants, but think about it this way: Plant cycle… Farmer orders plant seeds, plants plants, fertilizes plants, harvests plants, ships plants. Plants are processed and make the way to your grocery store. Animal cycle… First 5 steps of the plant process, then they make their way to factory farms. At the same time, a cow is artificially impregnated (yes, that requires shipping) and she gives birth. The baby cow is later shipped away to the factory farm, where 9/10ths of the calories from the grains are wasted, as well as a lot of electricity and resources to force feed it and keep it alive. It’s manure runs off, and it creates a breeding ground for deadly bacteria. Several months later, it is shipped to a slaughterhouse, then goes to be processed, before finally making it’s way to the local grocery store. If an all vegan world isn’t what you stand for, then why are you here?