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    Profile photo of SkiVegChick

    Over a year ago

    this is a quote from The Veggie People

    “A report entitled FEEDING A THIRSTY WORLD was released by some of the world’s leading water scientists at the Stockholm International Water Institute (SIWI), as part of the WORLD WATER WEEK Conference which convened in Stockholm yesterday (August 26 to 31, 2012). Although I have not read the entire report, I have read enough to know that the contents of the report are alarming. In accordance with a series of model-based studies carried out at Stockholm University, the scientists concluded that the earth will not have enough water to produce the food required to meet the world’s needs by 2050:

    “The analysis showed that there will not be enough water available on current croplands to produce food for the expected population in 2050 if we follow current trends and changes towards diets common in Western nations… There will, however, be just enough water, if the proportion of animal based foods is limited to 5 per cent of total calories and considerable regional water deficits can be met by a well organised and reliable system of food trade.”

    In other words, if the world’s population adopts a mostly vegetarian diet by 2050, we MAY have enough water left on the planet to grow enough food to feed ourselves – and ONLY IF “considerable regional water deficits can be met…”

    I know that many people cannot accept the legitimacy of the “compassion” argument, i.e. that many vegans adopt a plant-based diet out of compassion for the animals who are brutally tortured and slaughtered everyday in laboratories and on factory farms around the world. I also know that many people cannot accept the legitimacy of the “health” argument, i.e. that many vegans adopt a plant-based diet out of a desire to improve their physical, emotional, and mental health.

    However, in my experience, very few people will dispute the fact that an animal-based diet, by conservative measures, consumes 5 to 10 times more water than a vegetarian diet. As such, I am hoping that the results of SIWI’s research will appeal to those who refuse to be swayed by other arguments, and that, in light of SIWI’s findings, these people will consider reducing their intake of animal protein.

    There is constant talk about the world’s present and future energy requirements, but most people fail to see that future wars will be fought over our most basic of human requirements: fresh air, clean water, and FOOD. According to SIWI’s report, a world food crisis can be expected within the next 38 years if we do not CHANGE the way we eat, and if we do not find a way to alleviate the stress that we are currently putting on the earth’s water resources. According to THE GUARDIAN, in 2008 alone, food shortages led to civil unrest in 28 countries.

    If that’s not a convincing argument to GO VEG, then I don’t know what is…

    (I have attached the link to SIWI’s report and to THE GUARDIAN in the comments thread below.)

    Title: Veggie by 2050 Please
    Category: News
    Tags: Vegan, Vegetarian, Water, Stockholm, Conference, Food Shortage, 2050″

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  • Profile photo of VeganCaramel

    Over a year ago

    I hate when people think “what about the farmers!” is a legitimate concern.
    1. Worldwide veganism does not happen overnight. They have years, even decades to find a new career.
    2. Farmers are not idiots, most understand supply and demand and know how to practice vegetative agriculture. Their products would be less subsidized, they would have a higher control of their own output. Farmers know how to do more than one thing. If they are older, and did not receive the proper education to do anything else in their life, by the time a greater switch to veganism is made they will either be retired or dead.
    3. We can’t put off change just because there’s a hypothetical farmer out there who might suffer minor losses. Lest we forget, that hypothetical farmer makes a living off of torturing and slaughtering animals.

    Animal farmers in modern economy are removed from the economic system by subsidizing. Subsidizing from the government which inevitably cripples the economy BECAUSE it is not a sustainable system at all. It uses too many resources and produces too much waste.

    The real misunderstanding about life and the economy comes from people who think farming is beneficial rather than a severe drag on the nation’s wealth.

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  • Profile photo of peacelovepie

    Over a year ago

    @Whiskey Farming is profitable because of government subsidies that keep corn 2 prices down. The business’ price is pushed down by the fact that the government is using taxpayer money to support it. If they just take their last profits and don’t reinvest it in meat, but rather in something else, they will be able to obtain another livelihood. Also, if you are concerned about the corn 2 farmers now, be aware that they make very little from corn bought, and in all, it’s a sucky life too, and they can find better ones. If we eliminate that industry, gross inventions like high fructose corn syrup will no longer appear in all processed food, and there will less fertilizer runoff into rivers like the Mississippi.

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  • Profile photo of Whiskey

    Over a year ago

    Ok, so lets use Peacelovepie theory… you shrink the population down till its non-existent basically, what about the farmers who’s lives are those animals? Not all their land can be transformer into fields. How are you going to fix the economy so they can still live? Farmers struggle already.. I mean look at the drought… if that happened again that’s less veggies and fruit… so what happens then? Does anyone even care about the lives of the people who care for those animals? Do people not realize the economy is horrible and there are many jobless people out there already, some losing homes due to lack of money?

    Sorry if ya’ll think I’m trolling but I’m trying to get a grip on how ya’ll are thinking. Seems like everyone misses crucial parts of economy and life.

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  • Profile photo of peacelovepie

    Over a year ago

    foxiefox: we are not planning for the world to instantly go vegan. It will gradually happen, and each generation of animals will shrink and shrink.

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    Over a year ago

    Peacelovepie.. I understand that less animals will be born BUT what i am asking WHAT is going to happen to the animals that are alive when the world goes vegan? there will be No money to feed them the farmer looses His Income Selling them Theres not enough sanctuarys to take them Or people to keep them as Pets WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM??? that is the question everyone seems to me Missing? Are we going to have a mass Kill off? or let them slowly starve to death? or Are you going to Offer to pay the farmer to feed the Remaining cows,pigs sheep and Poultry tell they die of natural causes.. thats all i am asking How hard is that to answer???

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