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    Profile photo of lizforanimalrights16

    Over a year ago

    Hello my fellow vegans, and vegans ONLY,
    I was wondering you guys can answer some of my pet questions.

    How many pets do you have? What type of pets are they? What brand/food do you feed them?
    Also, if you own a pet cat or dog and you feed them vegan food, what brand do you feed them? I am looking for an easily accessible and cheap vegan brand for both cats and dogs. Thanks in advance.

    I am assuming most of you feed them vegan food, that’s why I didn’t want meat eater or vegetarians to answer, lol. Then I would have tons of them against it and discriminating between animals, I just don’t want to deal with that, so if you have don’t have something positive to say then don’t say anything at all.

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    Over a year ago

    Hey @lizforanimalrights16 and @teatowls,

    It seems like the discussion between you two got a bit heated! I just want to remind you both that the Boards are supposed to a safe space where we can all feel supported by each other. We want to make sure everyone feels comfortable posting here: after all, we’re all here because we love animals and want to help them! It’s important to keep this in mind when you’re posting on here.

    Here’s our stance on this issue! http://www.peta.org/issues/companion-animals/meatless-meals-for-dogs-and-cats.aspx :)

    Thank you both!

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  • Profile photo of teatowls

    Over a year ago

    @izforanimalrights16 I am vegan, I don’t consume meat my family does being 3 adults in the house so they tend to go through a fair amount of meat each week and also get the meat from animals who died naturally at a local farm (the chickens there were rescued from battery farms by the way). The end result is leftovers (Bones and all) are boiled down into a kind of stock then anything unsafe for them to eat is taken out. I’d also like to point out that I’m actually mixed race (my mother is black and mixed race also and my dad is white. My grandfather was an African Chief and a horrible,violent man who I can rather happily say died in prison) and I find that comment on me being racist based on what my carnivores eat quite disturbing, you don’t know me so please do not make judgements and by the way, neither of my parents would allow such a thing to happen as they dislike organ and blood donation… I’m signing up to organ donation when I finally send off my driving forms, that or will donate it to scientific testing if it means one less being is tortured in a laboratory without cause or justification. I am also against the death penalty by the way, one of my modules is Miscarriage of Justice and enough cases of wrongful imprisonment or executions have happened already thank you.

    Just to add, my ‘pets’ are not my pets. They are my family, my CHILDREN so of course I hold their lives over anyone else. Species matters no more to me than ethnicity, gender, age or ability and as far as I believe all beings should be treated with the same amount of respect you expect to receive yourself; I cover discrimination alot in essay’s and presentations at university and made a pretty good case against feminists in regards to how they’ve affected male discrimination within UK law. Our rape laws are specific to males, by our law a woman cannot be charged with rape and obviously this is a horrible case of discrimination and I would go as far as to say a miscarriage of justice to the victims of such sexual predators, I’m searching for ways I can get this to be changed so it is less exclusive.

    If you’re after feeding a pure carnivore (cats in particular, dogs are more adaptable and one of mine loves his carrots) then you MUST do research if you’re going to make the food yourself so else they won’t get the nutrients they need especially for the kitten (will need different nutrients to an adult cat!!), you don’t want to stunt his growth by accident. If you buy a brand then remember there are foods dogs and cats will refuse to eat so don’t be too shocked if noone looks that impressed by it, just keep trying brands till you get it right for them. For example, my nephew (my profile picture, he passed last year and it still hurts to think of him) hated real meat but loved to kill and eat raw mice which doesn’t really make any sense to me and he loved Go Cat biscuits but wouldn’t even sniff the Iams ones my parents decided to get several years ago, they were rather cross because it was expensive to buy but a few purrs later, a tummy rub and all was forgotten!

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    • Profile photo of lizforanimalrights16

      Over a year ago

      @teatowls I haven\’t commented back simply because I found it useless and I simply don\’t have time to log on any more but thanks for your reply. I, at the time I wrote this, am (was) vegan also (not any more, I will explain later on.) My family also, eats meat on a daily basis. Also, to be honest, I could care less of your racial background as I am bi-racial as well. I am sorry if you felt offended by my assumption and all else. I also, don\’t really care about what your going to do with your body after you die nor about your opinion on the death penalty, but thanks for sharing.

      I really could care less about your essays or presentations against discrimination that you present at universities, but its great that you do that by the way. I do also, believe that everyone should be treated with respect and should be treated equally so maybe that’s why I can’t believe that one would be completely fine with murdering, abusing, and eating a chicken yet a cat or dog would be the devil’s work (sorry if you are not Christian.) However, I must admit, although, I love my pets, they are NOT HUMANS therefore, I will not put them above my children, family, or other humans. I am not an extreme pet lover as yourself, I believe in limits. I believe NO ANIMAL should be abused, killed, or eaten however, they are not humans therefore, they don\’t have human rights, not even my pets.

      Many people feed their cats and dogs vegan food and they grow up very healthily, I believe you MUST do some research on this. Like I said before, I believe that is your cat not your nephew as I am not a crazy cat person who believes dogs and cats should have human rights. I am also, not going to put up with a picky kitten, the kitten is going to eat what it is being fed and that’s final. There are way too many humans and children starving in the streets that don’t have any food therefore, I refuse to put a cat or another animal above these innocent humans, my cat will eat the cheapest food I will be able to afford for her.

      Just a quick update on my situation. I did not end up feeding my dog nor my little kittens vegan food as it is really expensive and I don\’t have time to make them vegan food all the time. I ended up buying them both a very cheap pet food brand named Pet Pride which was created by Kroger but sells at Food 4 less. I was very impressed with the extremely low prices. For example, one little pouch of wet cat food is 38 cents and one small pouch of wet dog food I believe was like 48 or 78 cents.

      I am also, not vegan any more for many reasons. I do eat a mostly vegan/more towards a vegetarian diet mainly because I like to keep myself slim and a healthy vegan/vegetarian diet for 6 days keeps me slim. However, I do in deed, wear real fur. I especially love my rabbit and fox fur winter boots with sheepskin/suede. I also do love my leather Coach bags and my Uggs, etc. I also wear Maybelline\’s baby lips which are tested on animals. Over the last few months, I realized that vegans are simply not the brightest nor the kindest of people and I don\’t want to be associated with people that take off their clothes for fur protests, people that believe that pets are humans (your nephew), etc. I don\’t want to be associated with crazy people any more. If I do become fully vegan again I will no longer be on vegans side nor be a part of PETA because I am vegan because that’s how I am and I am an individual not a part of some crazy people or association. I am a person who is vegan because that’s just part of who I am.

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    • Profile photo of lizforanimalrights16

      Over a year ago

      @teatowls I haven’t commented back simply because I found it useless and I simply don’t have time to log on any more but thanks for your reply. I, at the time I wrote this, am (was) vegan also (not any more, I will explain later on.) My family also, eats meat on a daily basis. Also, to be honest, I could care less of your racial background as I am bi-racial as well. I am sorry if you felt offended by my assumption and all else. I also, don’t really care about what your going to do with your body after you die nor about your opinion on the death penalty, but thanks for sharing.

      I really could care less about your essays or presentations against discrimination that you present at universities, but its great that you do that by the way. I do also, believe that everyone should be treated with respect and should be treated equally so maybe that’s why I can’t believe that one would be completely fine with murdering, abusing, and eating a chicken yet a cat or dog would be the devil’s work (sorry if you are not Christian.) However, I must admit, although, I love my pets, they are NOT HUMANS therefore, I will not put them above my children, family, or other humans. I am not an extreme pet lover as yourself, I believe in limits. I believe NO ANIMAL should be abused, killed, or eaten however, they are not humans therefore, they don’t have human rights, not even my pets.

      Many people feed their cats and dogs vegan food and they grow up very healthily, I believe you MUST do some research on this. Like I said before, I believe that is your cat not your nephew as I am not a crazy cat person who believes dogs and cats should have human rights. I am also, not going to put up with a picky kitten, the kitten is going to eat what it is being fed and that’s final. There are way too many humans and children starving in the streets that don’t have any food therefore, I refuse to put a cat or another animal above these innocent humans, my cat will eat the cheapest food I will be able to afford for her.

      Just a quick update on my situation. I did not end up feeding my dog nor my little kittens vegan food as it is really expensive and I don’t have time to make them vegan food all the time. I ended up buying them both a very cheap pet food brand named Pet Pride which was created by Kroger but sells at Food 4 less. I was very impressed with the extremely low prices. For example, one little pouch of wet cat food is 38 cents and one small pouch of wet dog food I believe was like 48 or 78 cents.

      I am also, not vegan any more for many reasons. I do eat a mostly vegan/more towards a vegetarian diet mainly because I like to keep myself slim and a healthy vegan/vegetarian diet for 6 days keeps me slim. However, I do in deed, wear real fur. I especially love my rabbit and fox fur winter boots with sheepskin/suede. I also do love my leather Coach bags and my Uggs, etc. I also wear Maybelline’s baby lips which are tested on animals. Over the last few months, I realized that vegans are simply not the brightest nor the kindest of people and I don’t want to be associated with people that take off their clothes for fur protests, people that believe that pets are humans (your nephew), etc. I don’t want to be associated with crazy people any more. If I do become fully vegan again I will no longer be on vegans side nor be a part of PETA because I am vegan because that’s how I am and I am an individual not a part of some crazy people or association. I am a person who is vegan because that’s just part of who I am.

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  • Profile photo of lizforanimalrights16

    Over a year ago

    Thanks @jazzyandlove15 for your reply. I just want to ask what do you put/how do you make your cat’s food and dog’s food? I have one dog and one kitten so please reply back. Is it a recipe? Thanks so much for your help.

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    Over a year ago

    @teatowls I believe it is extremely hypocritical and discriminatory to feed pet dogs and cats meat. I did mention in my title that ONLY VEGANS answer please for the exact reason why this is happening. I don’t want to get messages like yours. I believe it is hypocritical because number one, I don’t think you are even a vegan, sorry if I offend, but you did say you feed your pets left over chicken which I assumed you ate. I feel its hypocritical and discriminatory because put it this way: You believe it is alright to be for human rights but you also believe that if you or your family member or a white American needed a transplant of an organ to live, then it’s ok to kill an African to get that organ? It completely makes sense to you but not to me. I can’t put an American’s life above an African just because they are white or a family member. The same way I can’t put a dog’s or cat’s life above a chicken, sheep, turkey, pig, cow, etc just because they are cute and fluffy and my pet. It’s absurd. Let me be honest, it’s reasons like these and people like you that make me think that veganism is stupid at times. Sorry if I offend, but I did warn twice before hand, and you decided not to take the warning sign therefore, I just feel, as I am more against discrimination than against animal cruelty, to defend my beliefs and question people like yourself, who don’t believe their is anything wrong with discrimination but go nuts if you kick a kitten wanting the death penalty for that person.

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    Over a year ago

    I have 3 pets, one dog, one cat, and one hamster. I make my animals their own food. My hamster gets carrots and other veggies as so as my other two pets and whole grain.

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