• This isn't normal… Is it??

    Avatar of Styna

    5 months ago

    My boyfriend and I were talking last night. He’s been feeling ill a lot lately, and I have been trying to get him to start eating better – but he’s not moving in with me until next year, and he lives about 30 minutes away, so I can’t really keep an eye on what he’s eating all the time. He’s notorious for eating fast food as often as he can.
    He likes the healthy vegan stuff I make him, but he wont make it himself. He seems to think it would take too much effort… because throwing some tofu in the skillet is more difficult than throwing a couple hot pockets in the microwave? Hmmm…
    Anyway.
    We were talking last night, because I just went shopping and got a alot of fruit. I tried multiple times to get him to eat -SOMETHING- with some sort of nutritional value (just wait until I finish my homemade green powder… He’ll never even know when he’s getting doses of healthy stuff), to which he responded “I had a can of pears earlier.”
    A can of pears.
    A CAN of pears. In heavy syrup, no doubt.
    I’m all for canning your own food (gotta prepare for the zombie apocalypse!) but commercially canned fruits are absolutely NOT an adequate replacement for raw fruits.
    Have you ever looked at the nutritional info on a can of fruit?
    There is exactly… 0%. You may as well drink a soda and call it an apple.
    No offense to people who eat canned fruit for the taste – I love me a can of fruit cocktail now and then. But it simply is not a good replacement, or any kind of replacement, for the nutrition you get from raw fruit.
    So I asked him when the last time he had a real raw piece of fruit was.
    He said he wasn’t sure, but it was definitely over a year ago.
    OVER A FREAKING YEAR AGO!!!
    Even when I was a total junk-food-junkie, I still ate fruit almost everyday. I guess it was just how I was raised.

    So then we got on the subject of types of fruit and vegetables.
    And came to the conclusion that he has NEVER tried a raw pear.
    has NEVER tried a raw grapefruit.
    has NEVER tried starfruit (which is sort of understandable, I guess)

    And there is a whole slew of vegetables he doesn’t know if he likes, because he cant remember if he ever tried them. But his general rule of thumb has always been “if its green, I dont like it” which is funny. Because everytime I have made something he was SURE he didn’t like, he ended up loving it.
    So.
    This isn’t just his lifestyle now, he was RAISED on total crap.
    So he thinks this is an average, normal lifestyle.
    He thinks it’s normal to eat maybe one piece of fruit a year (were not saying healthy, just normal).
    Normal to never have tried a grapefruit or pear (or cucumber up until last month, which he liked).

    Now.
    I was raised in the midst of a crazy divided family. And while both sides were totally into junk food, and fast food, and meat and potatoes… both sides were also very casual about fruit being a part of a daily diet. We always had fresh fruit sitting out, and a normal breakfast would be a grapefruit (with brown sugar -.-) or a banana cut up into oatmeal, with the occasional bowl of cereal.
    So to me, daily fruit has always been normal.
    My roommates have always enjoyed fruit.
    Most of the people I know (which really isn’t many, because I generally don’t like people) eat fruit.

    So I guess my question is, what have all of you experienced when it comes to this?
    Does your family eat fruit regularly?

    I don’t want to believe that the average 21 year old man has never tasted a pear before, and “wouldn’t even know how to go about eating it.”

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  • Avatar of Styna

    4 months ago

    Thanks for all the great advice, guys.
    I suppose the subject should have been more along the lines of “is this common?” as opposed to “normal”
    It makes me shudder to think that it -is- so common.
    We came to an agreement though. Until he moves in, he will come over for at least one home-cooked meal a week. All of which will be vegan. He didn’t agree to that last part… but it’s happening, and I doubt he’ll mind.

    You should have seen how hard I had to work just to get him to try a baby sweet pickle because he hates dill pickles hah.
    But if I nag long enough, he eventually tries whatever it is, and MOST times I don’t have to nag.
    So I’m lucky in the sense that he isn’t TERRIBLY stubborn.

  • Avatar of teatowls

    4 months ago

    Normal is a subjective term, what’s normal to him may not be normal to you or another person. For example it could be viewed as normal to see homeless people on the street but another person would be horrified, it depends all on how you were raised and the environment you live in.

    It may be normal to him but not to you and it definitely doesn’t sound healthy. You should get him to at the very least get the pre-cooked meals with veg so he’s getting something into him at least even though it’s not great it IS better than just rubbish, plus he can just pop it in the microwave so it wouldn’t take him long to do at all.

  • Avatar of DrunkTrannyMess

    4 months ago

    I can understand that. I once took a class with someone who didn’t know giving your kids soda was bad. Some people are ignorant due to their background and as such, the best you can do is slowly educate them.

  • Avatar of rainbowslut

    4 months ago

    Ahaha, that’s hilarious. In a saddening way. My family does not eat fruit regularly, and my roommates sure as hell don’t.

  • Avatar of Abnormal4Franz

    4 months ago

    My mom and I eat lots of fruit and veg everyday, but that is how we were both raised. I grew up in the country so we had an apple orchard and had a garden so we always had fresh home grown food.

  • Avatar of DearNickee

    4 months ago

    He’s a lucky young man to have such a sweet and caring girlfriend. :)

  • Avatar of livelovelife

    4 months ago

    Can you make a meal entirely of what you want him to eat, and invite him over? When he moves to your place it will be easier. Just keep cooking your style, and he will hopefully aquire a taste for these new, fresh fruits and veggies.

  • Avatar of Dagmar

    5 months ago

    Unfortunately, this is a common problem in the US. Eating fast and easy, cheap food has replaced quality. People don’t even know what kind of crap they are eating. Most people don’t read the nutrition facts or the ingredients and that is a costly mistake. My advice to help him get the missing nutrients is get a juicer. It doesn’t have to be fancy, but you can get kale, carrots, apples, whatever and make them into fresh juices. This is a start to help fill in those holes. Also., try cooking together to get the ball rolling. Start with easy stuff and look up 20-minute vegan meals. Lots of stuff out their that are healthy and easy.

  • Avatar of chenli

    5 months ago

    Sad thing is, we’re so indoctrinated from birth about animal products, and with all the adverts showing us cheap, fast and ‘tasty’ foods, we fall for it every time. Well, the knuckle dragging cavemen do. If fruit and veg had as much advertising and backing as the meat/dairy/etc industries do, then there would probably be a lot more people eating it. Humans are so easy to manipulate, it’s sad really. Just try and introduce him to one fruit at a time….as he might just shun you if you try it all at once.

    As for my family. My mum eats bananas on occassion. I don’t eat as much fruit as I would like to as sometimes it can be expensive depending on the fruit I fancy at the time. But I will buy the more expensive ones if they are reduced. I had raspberries today that normally cost £2.50 for a small punnet. They were reduced to 63p.

  • Avatar of VeganCaramel

    5 months ago

    I never see my mom eat fruit. The occasional banana every… year or so? Or maybe an apple pie. My sister is more of a vegetable person, but isn’t afraid of fruits. And I’m the “fruitiest” eater in our household, even though I only have 2-3 servings of fruit on average (unless it’s smoothie time!)

    Also, there are some fruits that people just never get around to eating. I ate kiwi once in my life and decided I didn’t like kiwi. But to never have ANY fruit at all, is obviously unhealthy.

  • Avatar of Sagojyou

    5 months ago

    Psssssh, I rarely eat fruit XD I’m a veggie person,. So fruit-wise, my intake sucks. But I eat a wide variety of vegetables, grains, and beans so I’m good.

    I don’t know what’s “normal” anymore in this world (Kids having an ipad since age 0? Uh, not normal when I was their age!), but people in general don’t eat healthy. So why not make him food when you can and let him be whatever? If he doesn’t have the desire to eat healthy, it’s not going to change him :/

  • Avatar of hakred

    5 months ago

    Unfortunately, I think the situation you explained is very normal. Without question, not the healthiest.. but normal none the less. Eat your fruit, peeps!

  • Avatar of peppermintcherry

    5 months ago

    ok, that makes sense. Probably should have heard the whole story before I made that comment, haha.

    And you never know, having a kid and having new kinds of responsibilities make people do things they would have never done otherwise :) Plus this far down the road, you guys will mature :)

  • Avatar of Styna

    5 months ago

    (you wouldn’t be the first person to tell me that)
    I don’t know, I think it was just something that came out because we had fought about politics earlier that day. He doesn’t have a problem with me being the way I am, and he loves most of the vegan food I make him. I think he probably misunderstood me when I said “healthy vegan diet” and thought I meant no snacks or junk food ever, until it grows up and moves out.
    Either way, it is waaaay way way down the line. we’re talking like 6-10 years (I’m going to be a proud older mother *nod*) I’m not really worried about it now, but it was pretty frustrating at the time.
    If he wanted the kid to have non-vegan food, that would mean he’d have to go grocery shopping… and that just doesn’t happen. lol
    I appreciate you speaking your mind about the matter :)

  • Avatar of peppermintcherry

    5 months ago

    It was the exact same way for me too. Going out to eat, or getting fast food, is a rare treat, well, with the exception of subway. I work full time, so I do not always feel like cooking when I get off of work, frozen vegan food is expensive and most of the time tastes like shit, and it’s right by my house. But I digress, if he considers a vegan diet a ‘crazy liberal diet’ then what does he think of you? I hate to sound like a bitch, but you might want to reconsider this relationship. He doesn’t have to be vegan or even vegetarian, but he should at least be supportive and be willing to at least compromise when it comes to raising a child. I know if I had plans/for some reason have a child, you can bet your ass they’ll be raised vegan.

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 1 week ago by Avatar of peppermintcherry shelby.
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