So I have been a pescetarian / vegetarian for maybe a year and a half now, and not that long ago I joined Peta2. One of my teachers was actually making fun of Peta2 and was talking to one of my classmates about how cows are dumb creatures and have no feelings, “Well, you can go ahead and TRY to make a difference and go join PETA if you have a problem with it.” After hearing this, even though he wasn’t directly speaking to me, I felt offended and so then joined this site! I come from a very SMALL school and know pretty much everyone. I can gurantee that I am the only person who is vegetarian and who thinks that PETA is a good thing! BUT, I’m not %100 agreeing on the vegan side of things. What I believe is this: I know that we are not carnivores. So that leaves omnivores and herbivores. So which one is correct?? Many argure one side or the other. But, I actually think it’s quite healthy to have a little bit fish, eggs, and dairy not as often, and in moderation. And, as for people eating meat, it’s their life and I think they have a choice but in my opinion I think people should farm raise their own animals to eat and not mass produce in factories. That’s where I like to stand up and say it’s wrong! I hate pretty much ALL mass production foods, and I think people should just grow their own food at home. With all of this being said, I still want to help support Peta, but don’t want to be labeled as a hypocrite. I feel like I’m almost a borderline supporter and need to hear some opinions! I stand for the right and ethnical treatment of animals, but I also feel that people have the right to go out and hunt for themselves or raise their own food, as long as it’s done respectful, ethnically, and they don’t waste the animal. Any opinions about this?
You all talk about how it’s a moral crime to cause pain or suffering to these animals, but what vindicates your verdict? What makes you right and everyone else wrong? There are and have been cultures all over the world that were fine with killing animals and using them as a resource. And don’t just say ‘Because I know it’s wrong!’ That’s not an argument. You personally feel that using animals is wrong, but that doesn’t make it so. Some people felt and believed that using people as unpaid labour was fine, but that didn’t make it so either.
You can’t claim to be in the moral right on this and that everyone else is wrong because you say so.
Also, @Vilebe4uty you are aware that for many poorer people, raising animals such as goats or cows is more plausible than trying to sustain a farm? A crop that provides proper nourishment across the board requires immense work and effort, and is very vulnerable to the elements. On the other hand, a goat provides milk, cheese, fur, leather, and meat. They can eat nearly anything, are self-sustaining largely, and are hardier than crops.
I have to agree with NIcoleLynne… I mean, all we can do is give our honest opinion, but we can’t force our views on other people. I mean, I’d be pretty annoyed if somone was trying to convert me into their religion. All we can do is find people who want to listen and spread the facts around about how eating meat is bad, and don’t nit pick at people’s lifestyles. Or, if you’re smart, start wording your sentances different to manipulate their thoughts XD haha.
& yeah that is your opinion you say that because of your feelings about it & that’s it, you have no other claim … & that’s why if you tell me they are doing wrong by eating meat they either laugh or get mad … you need to just give them the facts that eating meat can be unhealthy & you are supporting torture …..
And I agree @nomeatnodairynoproblem, somethings are just wrong. Killing another human is just wrong. It doesn’t matter if you kill someone for survival or not; you still know deep down it was wrong, but the only viable option at the time to preserve your life. It was an acceptable choice by not right. Harming another feeling creature and inflicting unwarrented pain and suffering is morally wrong hence why we as an entire society put laws in place protecting the well being of animals. Society believes torturing an animal is wrong, but they fall short of applying it to their food beause its uncomfortable and requires them to feel emotions they didn’t want to deal with. It is easier to sweep it under the rug and ignore it than face the truth: There is no humane way to butcher an animal for food.
Actually, by feeding cattle we are making food unavailable to the poorest people of the world. It takes 13 pounds of grain to make 1 pound of beef. Extremely inefficient. That 13 pounds could feed an entire village for a day instead of just a family of 4. It also takes more than 11 times as much fossil fuels to create 1 calorie of animal protein as it takes to produce 1 calorie of of plant protein. This is NOT my opinion but cold hard facts. We can’t end hunger by continuing to produce excessive amount of meat. It just isn’t feasible or efficient. Even if you don’t agree that animals shouldn’t be tortured and killed for our pleasure, you can at least agree on the cold hard facts that produce meat isn’t efficient and eating it is unhealthy for you. All the research is pointing that way. I believe you would enjoy the film Forks over Knives or reading the China Study. Forks over Knives is available on Netflix (I believe it is still there) and the China Study can be purchased at your local bookstore and excerpts are available on GoogleScholar.