You have to take all these supplements to be healthy?
(Note: My bf asked and I started to wonder myself.) Any thoughts? Many nonvegans/omnis are healthy without taking vitamins pills (yet many of them are…) But that’s not the point. I want to know, why be vegan if you can’t get all the nutrition from what (all the vegan food) you eat?
I personally don’t take vitamins or supplements, and I’ve actually been healthier than I was when I was vegetarian. I don’t get sick at all, and feel great! I know some people chose to take supplements, but if you eat a balanced diet, it isn’t always necessary.
Okay, well I did not say they WILL die within five years, I said could actually die. The point was that if you are deficient in a specific vitamin or mineral you can get very sick and MAY die if the problem isn’t fixed. Also, what was the person’s quality of life? Yes he was alive and no he was not healthy, but then what is his quality of life at that point? Yes it’s possible to live without taking supplements and having a poor diet, but at what cost? If someone’s immune system is so low because they aren’t eating a proper diet and they get an illness that a healthy person would not get and then die from that illness, then the cause of death would technically be the illness. However, they got the illness to begin with because of their poor eating habits.
Not necessarily. B12 is the biggest concern, but you can find it in foods and not just capsules. Nutritional yeast and even soy-milk with other foods like cereals and nondairy milks have been fortified with this necessary nutrient.
Additionally, I attend a well-funded university that is attached to a major hospital, and even our health science educators occasionally get things wrong (and then you go up to them and discuss it and they usually change their information to suit a better understanding) or have heavy biases.
@tofulife “If you are finding peer-reviewed sources that state that people can live a healthy life without B12 for 20 years or more then great” No, I don’t think you’re understanding what I just said. I said they were alive, not healthy, just alive. (Please feel free to read what I wrote again).
I’m just saying that b12 deficiency does not kill you within 5 years, as you had stated.
@VeganCaramel, If you are finding peer-reviewed sources that state that people can live a healthy life without B12 for 20 years or more then great, but I was just saying what I learned in the nutrition courses I took in college. Also, of course getting your vitamins and minerals from food sources is the best option because you get the phytonutrients and fiber along with the desired vitamin and obviously our bodies are not meant to be breaking down tablets. However, if a person doesn’t have a good diet than they should take supplements or a multivitamin to get some nutrients that they should be getting from their diet but don’t. There are also people who cannot absorb certain vitamins or minerals from food sources and have to take supplements and even then their body cannot absorb the nutrient and they then have to get injections to stay healthy. Like anything else, it all really depends on the individual’s body; Some people may not absorb the vitamin from a pill and some do. It also depends on the quality of the vitamin a person purchases.
@tofumonster, (not trying to argue), b12 deficiencies do not cause death within 5 or even 10 years. There are people currently who do not consume sources of b12 because they disagree with the necessity of it, unfortunately (I’ve had the ability to talk to someone who had not consumed large sources of b12 within more than 20 years and they claimed to be “fine”, whether or not that’s true they aren’t dead yet and I wish they would take better care of their health – I tried to convince them by showing them some stats but they just disagreed and said it wasn’t that important*), but they are not dead. b12 deficiency causes prominent mental illness, but there are no strong reports of b12 deficiency within the span of 5 years causing death. The many possible side-effects of notable b12 deficiency are quite painful and might even make someone feel as if they were going to die any day or that they were terminally ill (nausea, tiredness, diarrhea, vomiting, pernicious anemia, sensory/motor deficiency), but the amount of time a b12 deficiency would have to be left unchecked in order for this to result in death could be extremely long – up to 25 years or more.
I think the best way for people to get their recommended b12 would be just to eat fortified foods, rather than taking a tablet. A number of major studies show vitamin pills to have little or no effect on our health. This may be because people do not properly follow instructions on their personal supplements – such as consuming them with food and plenty of water – or because even when following instructions, the product itself is less likely to be absorbed by the body than vitamins supplemented through food.
Naturally, our bodies know how to derive vitamins and minerals from the food that we consume. Though a partially speculative theory, I think it would do most vegans better if they were to not waste their money on pills that don’t work.
However, if people are really stuck on the idea that they need to consume vitamin supplement pills, it is much better than having no source of b12 at all.
But again, I really do not recommend pills if you have the option of fortified foods.
@VeganCaramel, Thank you for correcting me (: One last thing about B12 is that it does get stored in the body, but if a person doesn’t have any or very little B12 intake, within five years a person could get very sick and actually die because of a B12 deficiency. Of course this is something that is very rare, but if you’re not going to take any other supplements at least take a B12 tablet once a week or so.
you can get all the nutrition you need b vitamins are the only things that are almost impossible to get because they come from bacteria and we would get it from fruit and such if they werent washed and pesticides werent used. everything else is possible to get as long as you pay close attention to what you eat