They only sell what people will buy. If it doesn’t sell they stop supplying.

@Smashingdols
It seems you missed my point. Probably my fault though. I need to adjust my speaking style for this forum I think.

@LittleLotte
McDonald’s is going to have to evolve or die. The world is going vegan whether they like it or not. Give your money to vegetarian/vegan companies so that they can grow and expand. The pressure on McDonald’s will increase and you’ll see them replacing the animal products in their food and opening more vegetarian restaurants. At that point we can either let them die for what they’ve done in the past or support them in their evolution.
If they’re smart (are you listening Mr. Thompson?) they’ll discreetly shift their assets and just let the McDonald’s brand die.

Honestly though, if it becomes apparent that they’re committed to going completely veg (while keeping the McDonald’s brand), you won’t see me telling people to boycott them for what they did in the past.

When you purchase food from a grocery store that also sells dead animals, you’re supporting that business too, like @Smashingdols said. There are very few 100% vegan practices/companies. We need to do what we can to show that veganism is on the rise, and we should do that in ways that a) we feel comfortable in, and b) are logical. What if we boycotted a certain vegan meat substitute because the company also sold products with eggs? What if we stopped purchasing vegan granola bars because only one of the companies products had whey powder in it?

I don’t often agree with the support of fast food, but I don’t think a vegan buying vegan-friendly fries at a fast food restaurant immediately calls the vegan police on them.

nomeatnodairynoproblem – “[X fast food chain] creates menu items using primarily animal products” So does every restaurant and both the deli and prepared foods sections in grocery stores. If you took the time to analyze the number of vegan options in grocery stores vs nonvegan options, you would certainly find that the food in grocery stores is PRIMARILY nonvegan. They would have more options but they also sell more products. Furthermore, most people consider vegetables to be ingredients (even McDonalds needs to buy tomatoes and lettuce) so exuding all things used by omnivores as ingredients or condiments, if you analyzed the percentage of meals at grocery stores then you will find that the nonvegan options are outnumbered in the same way as they are at restaurants and fast food chains. (I haven’t done the legwork on this but I think you’ll agree that this is a safe assumption.)

Mostly I agree, however:
1. Buying veg*n options from places like this will show them there is a demand for ethical food, if we stop buying then they’ll stop selling them altogether.
2. Showing omnivores that there are other options whilst eating out is great advocacy for veg*nism.

@Smashingdols made an interesting point that’s worth commenting on.

Fast food chain restaurants, like McDonald’s, are pushers of animal products.
McDonald’s creates menu items using primarily animal products, and they are in the business of convincing consumers that they want (or even need) to consume animal products.
Their targeting of kids using colorful characters & free toys makes them a key player in creating the next generation of humans who view dead animals & animal secretions as normal human food.

Most grocery stores don’t really care either way.
They just sell whatever consumers demand.
Most have little or no interest in pushing animal products over plant products.

If animal products were banned tomorrow, the grocery stores would still be in business selling products that don’t contain any animal products.
MCDonald’s, however, would be screwed.

So, yeah, purchasing a veggie burger from a fast food restaurant, like McDonald’s (a hardcore pusher of animal products), is definitely worse than purchasing a veggie burger at a typical local grocery store.
If you somehow find yourself at a McDonald’s with no choice but to purchase something (lulz), by all means purchase the veggie burger, but never intentionally go to a McDonald’s to purchase a veggie burger.

We should always be examining and re-examing the things we do in order to determine if there’s a reasonable change we can make which will result in us causing or supporting less unnecessary pain, suffering or death in the world.
Sometimes we encounter difficult decisions like:
Should I just let my lawn keep growing or should I mow it knowing that I’ll kill many insects (and maybe even some small animals) in the process?
OR:
Should I purchase my tofu from the heartless big-box store by my house, or drive 15 miles to purchase it from the caring eco-friendly health food store that sells only vegan products?

Whether or not to purchase food from a fast food restaurant, like McDonald’s, isn’t one of those difficult decisions.
We don’t need to purchase food from these restaurants for any reason at all.
If you’re away from home at lunch time and there’s nothing in sight but a McDonald’s … just go hungry for a while, and let it serve a reminder that this world isn’t exactly set up with veganism in mind, so you should be making plans for your meals if you’re going to be away from home for a while.

You could say the same thing about shopping at grocery stores.

I still don’t understand it. Even if they do offer vegetarian/vegan options, when you purchase food from a business that makes money off of torturing and killing animals, you’re supporting that business. You’re giving them your money, hence enabling them to continue their practice. Does anyone agree/disagree? I’d like to hear your thoughts on it.